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Update on Federal CCW as of 02/19/2010

See questions/answer below

Important Notice:

Latest update;  Doug Britton and Charles Herring filed their application after completing the requirements and within 5 days received their Federal CCW permit.  This was a period of time including a weekend.  They received a plastic, business size card.  On the front was the personal ID info and on the reverse was a description of the weapons to be carried.  You must have this permit with your agency photographic ID in your possession anytime you are carrying a weapon.

Doug Britton and Charlie Herring completed the initial training requirement for their Federal CCW.  The Pamilico County Sheriff's Department assisted them in this endeavor.  They completed the required 6 hour classroom part, then completed daytime firearms training with 20 rounds from the 25 yard line, 20 rounds from the 15 yard line and 10 rounds from the 7 yard line.  Night firing was accomplished by firing 25 rounds from the 15 yard line and 25 rounds from the 7 yard line.    The night firing was completed with several blue lights flashing behind the firing line.  Their cost was $50.00 with the application to CJS and $5.00 for use of the range.

Note:  The requirement by CJS is that you must complete the firing range qualification according to the agency that is assisting.  You may have a different set of rounds and distances accordingly.

Retired Sergeant Doug Britton called with the following information----

He went online to the North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards web site and click on "Retirees".  From there he was able to print a copy of Form F-9R or the "Retired Law Enforcement Officer Firearms Qualification Application".  He has taken the application to a certified firearms instructor in an eastern county.  The instructor has all of the other necessary forms.  He and other retirees will look at two videos.

1.   Four hours of annual training on safety, marksmanship fundamentals and use of force.

2.   Two hours on NC laws as it relates to self-defense and use of force.

This constitutes the classroom requirement.

The participants have elected to follow the firearms course requirement for that county.  They qualify under the direction of the instructor.  After completing both classroom and range requirements, the instructor will submit all forms  required and the applicant/instructor will submit the notarized application along with a money order or cashier check for the amount of $50.00 (or $25.00 for the annual renewal).  The applicant is responsible for any cost associated with classroom or range.  You may qualify with a revolver or semi-automatic pistol and up to four different weapons.  TheNCCJE&TSC will notify a permit holder prior to renewal.

I will add, delete or revise this process as I hear from other retirees.

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Good news!!

The North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards Commission has established standards and guidelines for the annual firearms qualification for qualified retired law enforcement officers.  Under Federal law, retired law enforcement officers may carry concealed firearms nationwide if they meet the definition of a qualified law enforcement officer and met the standards for training and qualification for active law enforcement officers to carry firearms.

A retired officer in North Carolina residing in North Carolina may meet the State's standards in one of two ways;

1.   The retired officer may qualify with the agency from which they retired.  The Agency is responsible for providing documentation to the retired officer to verify their completion of the annual in-service firearms training and qualification requirements.  There is a requirement for classroom instructions and range qualification.

2.   The retired officer may go to a Commission certified law enforcement Specialized Firearms Instructor and complete the training and qualification and then apply to the Criminal Justice Standards Commission for certification under the Retired Law Enforcement Officers Firearms Qualification Certification Program.

Important to notice;

There are requirements for each step in this process such as minimum classroom and firearms training, certified instructors, application forms, monetary charges for the initial application, cost of training, cost of annual application and renewal, sanctions for violations and  filings of training record and Commission notification. 

Due to the length and complications of the entire process, I will post an answer to any questions you might have.  I recommend that you contact a local certified firearms instructor to ascertain if the program is available to you near your home.  Contact me by phone or e-mail.

**** Question concerning valid retired photographic ID

Your question was submitted to Joe Dugdale , Special Counsel to the NCSHP.  It is his opinion and that opinion is supported by John Aldridge, Assistant Attorney General, that a photographic ID held by a retired member signed by the current Commander or any former Commander is sufficient under the requirements of HB 1231 and Sub-Chaper 09H, Sections .0101-.0105.

**** Question about retired officer Identification

When submitting documentation for the issuance of the Federal/State CCW permit, you must submit a copy of your agency photo identification confirming your retired status.  The NCSHP issues such ID, but must be obtained during a regular scheduled event for that purpose.

**** Question about the Commission Certified Instructor

Only a Commission Certified Law Enforcement Specialized Firearms Instructor will be authorized to conduct the training and qualification.  Your responsibility is to apply for and receive an original application.   If your instructor has the necessary forms and is aware of the requirements, you can feel comfortable that he/she is certified.  Ask for proof.

Ethridge

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Retired First Sergeant Jeff Winstead sent information concerning a new Federal Congress House Bill on carrying concealed weapon by authorized retirees.

H.R. 3752 would allow law enforcement officers who are retired or who separated under good standing after at least ten years service to carry a concealed weapon.  It is in the House Judiciary Committee.  If you have an interest, you may want to contact your local Federal House of Representative or Senate elected representative and ask them to support this legislation.  It was offered by Congressman J. Randy Forbes (Va-04).  I'll have further after I have had a chance to study the complete bill.


If you have questions phone 704.220.6293 or e-mail me at kwdeee@carolina.rr.com